The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypto
December 07, 2006
So I’m wondering, reader(/s), what are your feelings about the upcoming Apocalypto? I’m sorry for asking for interaction. Is anyone planning on shunning the movie because now we know it takes two and a half beers to prove that Mel Gibson is an anti-semite... as opposed our former knowledge that he was an anti-semite before we had proof? Did anyone who saw The Passion of the Christ plan to not see Apocalypto because Gibson feels that the jews are responsible all the wars in the world? Does anyone who did see The Passion plan to see the Apocalypto as well? Are there any of you out there who never saw the Passion and have no intention of bothering with Apocalypto either? Is there anybody, other than myself, that said forget The Passion but are dying to see Apocalypto?
Okay, so here is my take:
I did not see The Passion of the Christ, nor will I ever bother to see it. Why? Because, prior to production of the Passion, due to a general universal knowledge that Mel Gibson was a jew hater, the son of an even bigger jew hater, and a devote follower of a religious fringe group within the Catholic church that refuses to acknowledge the Pope because the post Vatican II Catholic Church is too liberal (a.k.a. - the Church doesn’t blame the jews enough for the death of Christ), I opted not to bother with that movie - regardless of either negative or positive reviews. Frankly, I had no interest in an interpretation of the events leading up to the crucifixion by a jew hating freakazoid; not because I was personally offended by his crazy jew hating ways, but because I cannot understand the desire of anyone to bother subjecting themselves to the subjective, angry, hating muck that is at the center of someone else’s core belief system. I never bothered to see Birth of a Nation for much the same reason. I don’t have the emotional stamina to bother being offended that D.W. Griffith was a pre-integration black hating white american southerner. That isn’t to say the Griffith was not a cinematic genius, an innovative filmmaker or anything else; but I do know that he was a black hater and believed some seriously ridiculous propagandic bullshit about Reconstruction and the Klu Klux Klan, and I have no interest in watching his works that were influenced by all that nonsense. If silent movies didn’t boor the hell out of me, I would be more than willing to watch his other stuff - as opposed to having Martin Scorsese walk me through Griffith’s innovations in a documentary about boring silent movies.
Likewise, I fail to see the relevance of Gibson’s jew hating ways in a film about pre-Columbian Aztecs Mayans (same-diff), unless he somehow makes the argument that the jews were ultimately responsible for their downfall. The historical record makes this highly unlikely, and if he did, I am sure that some critic would give me a head’s up.
So, what I am left with are my own impressions of what Apocalypto could be, and based on many positive reviews and the previews that I have seen, that movie looks COOL AS SHIT. Of course, there are also many negative reviews, but in light of resent events, I really don’t even know if I can trust any of them, as there are so many subjective variables influencing film criticism, I have no way of knowing if these critics actually were not impressed with the movie, or if Gibson-hatred has sunken into the core of the subjective, angry, hating muck that is at the center of their own core belief systems... and frankly, neither do they. By and large, criticism is utter and complete nonsense. Take, for instance, critical view on an actor like Tom Hanks. For a decade, critics all thought he sucked, then all of a sudden he thought he was a god. Nowadays, everyone thinks he is fairly capable, unless you are an alterna/indie/asswipe, then you hate him for representing the mainstream. The very last variable that comes into play when criticizing Tom Hanks acting work is his acting ability. It is ALWAYS about general public perceptions and what an acting critic wants to think of himself. It’s the same thing with Ed Norton. Sure, I guess he’s good at what he does; but if he recorded himself taking a crap and uploaded onto Youtube, he would probably receive an Academy Award nomination. Does anyone remember his glowing critical accolades for his three or four scenes wearing a mask in Kingdom of Heaven? What the hell was that all about?! They could have put Corky from Life Goes On in that mask, had Ed Norton record voiceovers, and he would have received the same ridiculous praise. Something tells me that either of these two “geniuses” was exposed to be a racist, or a pederast, or a sexist, the critical analysis of their work would somehow change, regardless of whether or not their work was affected at all.
Anyway, obviously I’m just rambling here, but I guess the point I’m trying to make here is that if ANY critics are willing to stand up for Apocalypto, it is potentially three times better than what the overall critical assessment seems to say it is, seeing how he is the devil reincarnate and all. Is Mel Gibson a jew hating freak? Yes. Does Apocalypto look cool as hell? Yes. Do I trust anyone’s critical assessment of the film in light of recent events? No. Am I going to spend money to see it? Yes.
Will I ultimately be disappointed? Probably.
Can't wait to read your review. I'm on the fence for all the reasons you stated, but yeah - it looks cool. It also looks incredibly violent, and I'm a pretty big wuss about stuff like that unless it's zombies, vampires or werewolves tearing the crap out of people, and then I'm fine with it.
Posted by: Broadsheet at December 7, 2006 03:59 PMI can't wait to see it.
Posted by: Kristine at December 7, 2006 07:21 PMI’m not going to be writing a blog review. I have a big issue with the subjectivity of amateur criticism. I have, maybe, three or four critics whose writing I like and whose opinions I trust... I rarely trust the professionals. When amateurs get into the game, the subjectivity gets worse and the expertise becomes less. My opinions about film are amateur opinions. Whenever I read a critical assessment of a film by a “blogger,” if you will, experience has taught me to stop reading immediately. Calling what a blogger says about a film a review is like calling what an eight year old does with an Easybake oven an example of pastry cooking. I am no exception.
I have to admit, being a boy, the potential realism of the violence in the film is a definite perk for me. I hate horror movies - the sensation of feeling scared is completely unpleasant to me - but blood and guts angling towards realism doesn’t bother me a bit.
Posted by: eebmore at December 8, 2006 10:35 AMI too skipped Passion, mainly because watching suffering and gore doesnt register as a religious experience for me. Watching suffering and gore within a civilization that has pyramids, neat-o keen!
My plan is to hit a multiplex where it is playing, pay for one movie, and then go see it. My honest concern is the way the box office will be scrutinized by everyone from Defamer to Access Hollywood to CNN. If the movie makes bank, it will be viewed as further license for bad behavior with little repercussion from celebrities, and eventually towards wretched behavior as publicity stunt. I've seen Britney's nether reigons. I don't need to see Speilbergs.
I was also hoping I could buy a ticket for a Hillary Duff movie to substitute. It may have to be Let's Go to Prison
Posted by: Mr. Butterworths at December 8, 2006 12:13 PMI'm not going to see it because I've always found Mel Gibson irritating. I must have been the only boy in middle school who thought Lethal Weapon was stupid.
Since then, I've found Gibson's directing to be ham-handed. The jew hating and chauvinism are just extra reasons why I don't watch his movies.
Posted by: anoymouscoworker at December 11, 2006 03:00 PMYou hate chauvinism?
girl.
I will admit, the stupid scotish thing he did was horrible.
Posted by: at December 12, 2006 12:12 AMI don't care if it is art, or not, I'm not underwriting violence.
Posted by: molly at December 13, 2006 10:51 AMI'm not really anti-violence... obviously. As long as the violence is contextual, I've got no problem with it.
I actually did just see the movie last night. I think the violence was properly contextual... at least by what we know about mayan culture, that is. it was very "boy" movie. the details were really damned impressive... in the "this has never been done before" way.
BUT... the narrative conventions used to carry the story along were two giant battering ram sized ham fists. I am not kidding you, they actually had a quicksand scene. good god. and the action that was taking place at the narrative zenith was so rediculous that my friend and I rolling with laughter. Overall, I did enjoy myself, though.
Posted by: eebmore at December 13, 2006 02:15 PM"Is there anybody, other than myself, that said forget The Passion but are dying to see Apocalypto?"
Aye, cap'n.
Mel rocks, despite the fact he's a filthy Jew-hating bastard who's starting to look really, really homely. I feel about Mel the same way I do Tom Cruise -- I don't care how creepy or unpleasant an artist is (but they mustn't be murderers or child abusers), long as they deliver a good product. And both of those creepy, unpleasant human-like creatures usually do.
Posted by: Ms. Lori at December 15, 2006 10:26 AM
[Ms. Lori, it appears that my comments are time stamped to close; so I'm just replying by editing within your comment:
"... but they mustn't be murderers or child abusers."
Ah. This reminds me of the case Roman Polanski. Have I seen his movies since we have learned that he is a dirty child molester? Yes. Do I regret it? No. But, if he ever sets his dirty, child molesting feet in this country again, I would be disgusted if they didn't throw the book at him. Back in the day, I heard a rumor that Clinton was considering giving him a parden. I'm glad he didn't. Pardoning someone because they are an "artist" is complete bullshit... but I'll still consume their product.
I've talked to some people who have said that they were not going to go see the movie because they did not want to give Gibson a single penny. That, I can TOTALLY respect. What I cannot respect is a critic considering Gibson's antisemitism when judging a movie about pre-columbian mesoamerica. Even though the movie is arguably an anti-American (or critical of America) allegory, I don't remember any jewey minority neocon indians in the movies pulling strings and controling the universe. [I'm also anti-neocon. just not for the same reasons as Gibson and Pat Buchanen]
Now, the Tom Cruise thing? That's just crazy talk. He is only slightly less of a talantless acting turd than Ben Affleck. But, I'll watch any piece of crap that has Christina Applegate in it, so I can empathize with you somewhat.
-eebmore]
Posted by: Ms. Lori at December 15, 2006 10:26 AMHave more to say? Please mail me:
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